Both of them, both of them. From my vantage point, I can see both, okay. But to say, now I'm trying to make this as clear as I can. I can see both of them, but as Michael was staggering toward him, you know, trying to keep his balance, as he was moving forward, you could see, I could see the officer stepping back.
When he took those steps back and Michael was staggering forward, I thought, oh, my God, that's when they said he is getting ready to shoot him. Sure enough, as soon they said that, he let loose.
That's when you all are