And as was brought up at the very beginning of this and what we have researched and discussed, the possibility of well, what if there's, you know, five people want to indict on murder first and five people that want to indict on murder second, and two people that don't want to indict. If you have nine people that vote indict on anything, then there will be an indictment. What that indictment is we will deal with if that happens, but there was some question, well, 1s it kind of like a hung Jury if we all can't agree on the charge. No.
If there are n1ne people to vote for an indictment, regardless of what charge you are indicting on, then know that there will be an indictment and we will give you further instruction on what that indictment, what offense it will be.
And the one thing that Sheila has explained as far as what you must find and as she said, it is kind of in Missouri it is kind of, the State has to prove 1n a criminal trial, the State has to prove that the person did not act 1n lawful self-defense or did not use lawful force 1n making, it is kind of like we have to prove the negative.
So in this case because we are talking about probable cause, as we've discussed, you must find probable cause to believe that he committed the offense that you're considering and you must find probable cause to believe that he did not act in lawful self-defense. Not that he did, but that he did not and that you find probable cause to believe that he did not use lawful force in making the arrest.
So if you guys need clarification on that when you get down to discussing it, I can print that out or something, you understand the difference, the distinction, okay?
GRAND JUROR: Tell us those three aga1n, one 1s committed the offense?