Probable cause to believe that he committed the offense, which means that he met all the elements of that offense. You remember that from your grand Jury days. And you must find probable cause to believe that Darren Wilson did not act in lawful self-defense and you must find probable cause to believe that Darren Wilson did not use lawful force in making an arrest. And only if you find those things, which is kind of like finding a negative, you cannot return an indictment on anything or true bill unless you find both of those things. Because both are complete defenses to any offense and they both have been raised in his, 1n the evidence. So any other questions about the law?
Okay. And then just one last thing is that Sheila and I talked about making, we can't make a closing argument to you and we're not going to, but I wanted to say something and I asked Sheila if she would, if we could prepare a statement together to say and so I just wanted to first thank you. We both wanted to thank you and how difficult this has been and the sacrifice that we know you all have family and jobs and we understand the burden it has been for you to be here for now 24 days, 25 days that you've actually been here.
We also want you to understand that your decision, whatever it is, should be based on the evidence that you heard in here and the law that we've explained to you, not based upon what the media says, not based upon public opinion, not based upon your fears, you have to base it on the evidence and the law.
And whatever that decision is, it will be the correct decision and we will stand by that 100 percent, whatever your decision 1s.
And then finally I wanted to say, and Sheila agrees, but we wanted to point out that if at times it seemed like in our questions we were somehow expressing our op1n1ons either about what we think the evidence 1s, or about the credibility of a witness. We want you to understand as attorneys it is our job to challenge witnesses' statements and that sometimes, you know, you don't get to the truth unless you challenge a witness statement.
We have not had any particular rhyme or reason what witnesses we have taken, we have kind of traded off just because we are sharing the workload, but if at any time you felt that we were trying to express our opinion to you, we certainly were not.
Sheila said, as attorneys either of us can argue either point effectively and well because that's what we do, but in challenging witnesses, and I know that many of you have asked challenging questions of the witnesses as well, it is up to you to determine the facts and it 1s up to you to determine the credibility of the witnesses that testify and don't read into anything about what you think our op1n1ons are because really our opinions don't matter, it is up to you and what you guys think.
So with that being said, thank you, thank you very much.